Dave's Bus Conversion

Vegetable Oil Fuel Parts List


Parts List for WVO Bus conversion

Here are all my parts notes, in a quasi-readable format.

Someday I'll figure out my total cost, but it's probably between 3-4 grand??


Some parts suppliers
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jcwhitney.com
marinefilters.com
mcmaster.com
usdieselparts.com

SVO KITS/RESOURCES
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	enviofuel.com
		Big rig kit $2700?	(except tank)
	realenergy.net
		Ryan:	$6000 for install, $4000? no install, $2600 kit w/o tank
	fattywagons.com	(not currently open?  lots of electrical heat options)
	greasecar.com
	frybrid.com
	veggiefuelsystems.com
	greasel.com
	elsbett.com

New
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	(stuff that didn't exist when I converted that I might have used)
	http://www.greasekings.com/

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PURCHASE (2005/10/27)
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Parts in order of fuel usage:

Collection pump		- Need to do research...
Collection Hose 50'	$ 120	(also at usplastic.com - Tubing->PVC Tubing)
Tank Heater		$ 120
Dirty Pump		$ 275
Racor 1000FH		$ 200	(found for $191 on se-power.com)
50G Tank		$ 100
Tank Heater #2		$ 120
Heat Exchanger		$ 200	(greaseworks $170, frybrid $200, enviofuel $225)
Racor 1000FH		$ 200
Pressure Gauge		$  60
Heat Exchanger #2	$ 200
Valves			- I will decide on these later.
DPDT switches		- I will get these myself
Coolant/fuel Hoses	$ 280
Temp Gauge		$  60
Brass Fittings		$ 500
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TOTAL			$2435

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Suppliers
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Polyethylene 3/8" Tanks  (cross-linked)
	http://usplastic.com/
	http://Enviofuel.com/	$1000++	(200 gallon aluminum?)
	http://plastic-mart.com/	866-310-2556 (Dave)
		210G: $459 + 150 ship, 60x36x24 3/8" thick	(forgot deck plate!)
		linear poly closed tank with one 1/2" fitting short side
		NEEDS VENT ON TOP!
I have 84+ - I would prefer to only use about 76+
36+ x 30- x 16/24"
		PURCHASED: $213	60 gallons      36 1/4"L x 30 1/4"W x 14 1/2"H  54W
$213	+ $30 ship + $10 fit + $17.28 tax		$278.28
	http://www.tank-depot.com/
		Needs fittings added manually, not a great deal.
	http://etanks.com/	<- comes with deck plate?
		210G:  $648	60x36x24
		50G:  $200	26x41x16"

Racor 1000FH	(1-2 needed?)	(with heater??)
	Ryan:	$350	(300 on website??)
	Enviofuel:  $300 (Racor 900??)
	gopower.com:  $300 (no heater)
	marinefilters:	$233	(racor 1000MA - also works)
	se-power.com:	$191!!
	starmarinedepot.com:	$225 (FH - also has filters for ~$10)

Other filter/dewater options:
	http://www.luberfiner.com/products/fuelfilters.html

Fleetguard FH23000 "Fuel Filter and Fuel-Water Separator"
	discontinued, but if you can still find one: 90gph,
	and has built-in coolant heat exchange!
	ebay had them for a while for $175 buy it now

Oil Centrifuge Filters:	6000 rpms?
	http://www.dieselcraft.com/productinfo_OC_1.html
	http://www.dieselproducts.com/spinner/sp_works.html
		Dieselcraft Cyclone:  Model->gph: OC20->50 $200, OC50->108gph $343, OC200->300 $1560
	http://www.spinnerii.com/index.cfm
		Spinner II: Model->gph: 25->60, 60->120, 96->120, 200->240
		(60 is now 960, 96 is now 996, 996 has auto adjust screw for cutoff)
	Consider pressure relief valve to send back extra:
		http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/itemDetailsRender.shtml?ItemId=1611785282

HOSES
	3/4" Coolant	Ryan:	$ 75	(50')
	1/2" Coolant	Ryan:	$ 75	(50')
	1/2" Fuel Hose	Ryan:	$130	(50' - pushlock & biodiesel safe)

8" screw Deck Plates (for tank)
	westmarine.com
	go2marine.com

Small Pump (dirty->clean)
	PUMP: Reverso GP-301
	$230	San Diego Marine Exchange	800-336-7369
	$275+	Ryan, RealEnergy
	NorthernTool has 5gpm for $99 - reversible, don't know if it can handle oil.
		Tuthill Corp phone?  260.747.3159
		http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=47671&R=47671&langId=-1
		http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=6970&productId=200129174&R=200129174&langId=-1

Brass Fittings
	Home Depot has some of the smaller ones.  About $2 each.
	(vegpower has some brass fittings)
	(also: mcmaster.com: "push-on hose & fittings" - NOT "barbed hose fittings")
	Note that pipe thread size is 1/4" smaller than measured I.D./O.D.
	Also note that one-piece barbed tees exist

8" deck plate
	found some that are ABS and some polycarbonate (lexan)
	Don't know if either can handle oil/diesel

Biodiesel tubing <- doesn't have in stock
Todd - biodiesel solutions
714.240.1141

Many, many pumps at:
	pumpbiz.com

GPI M180S-ML Pump
	GPI:	800.835.0113
	phoenixpump.net	$255 (free shipping!)
		AR: 800.952.7339  NC: 800.741.4019  After-hours: 800.952.7339
		http://phoenixpump.net/gpi.htm <- not linked?
		$269 -> What about their "Gasboy Model 620" up to 20GPM at 26A?
		Gasboy Model 73, 18GPM (petro claims 14-15gpm), 1/3HP, 115V!  $333
	benfordfueling.com 251.986.8265
		http://www.benfordfueling.com/shop/gpidcpumps.html
	oilequipment.com	Gasboy Model 73 $363

Air pumps:
	Allflo 1" aluminum pump 40GPM, 1/8" solids, $458??

Pushlock:
  Sebastopol Bearing & Hydraulic

Fuel Gauges and senders:
	JC Whitney
	Autometer
	Teleflex

Copper Tubing
	NOTE: Don't use copper tubing!  It reacts with the WVO, use aluminum instead!
		(even the tubing wrapped around the filter gets WVO on it and starts to react)
	Most hardware stores - $33/50ft?

Aluminum Tubing
	Mfgr:  WOLVERINE TUBE, INC.  wlv.com 256.890.0460
	Ebay - for fuel racing lines?
		Also look for aircraft aluminum fuel lines??
		check with frybrid?
	30' sections of 3/8" tubing:
		http://www.tunerschoice.com/xq/aspx/paging.yes/dept_id.315/display_id.142/qx/Product.htm
		http://www.speedwaymotors.com/
	Connect with JIC or AN Fittings

Solenoid Valves
	omega.com	(has tech reference PDF)
	enviofuel:	$80+ each?	Three-way, 
		According to 6V-92 manual, sect 2, Fuel Pump, the fuel pump has
		a max relief valve to ensure that pressure never goes *above* ~65psi.
		Presumably the pump runs somewhere slightly below that?
		The enviofuel at just 10 psi can flow ~1 gpm, which should be enough, yes?
	greasecar now has them for $55 - "SV100 or SVO-3"

Racor Filter Elements (for 1000MA/FH/FG/MAM):
	Expected use:  replace 30u every 1000 miles, 10u every 4000 miles
	2020PM-OR	red	30u (micron)	dirty filter
	2020TM-OR	blue	10u (micron)
	2020SM-OR	brown	2u (micron)	probably too small, diesel is down to 20u
	marinefilters.com	$8.22	(unknown shipping costs??)
	southeastpowersystems.com	$8.54	or $7.87 for 12
	pyacht.net	$10-11
	starmarinedepot.com	$10

Pressure Gauge
	Ryan:	$60

Consider non-electric vacuum gauges, can check occasionally when stopped.
	VeggieFuelSystems:	$9

Heat Exchange	(2 needed)
	Ryan:	$250
	Enviofuel:	$225
	Frybrid:	$200
	greaseworks:	$170	(1/2" NPTF ports)
	Also consider brazed plate heat exchangers?
		http://www.brazedplate.com/
		http://www.plantdrive.com/page0/page45/page45.html
	VeggieFuelSystems:	$165 (might be smaller?)

Valves	(Either 2 or 4 needed, total cost here)
	Ryan:	$400	(4 total)
	Enviofuel:	$186	(high flow - how big???)
	Ryan option #2:	$ 70	(2 3-port manual switches)
	vegpower:	$ 40	(manual 1/4" switches - big enough??)

Switches	(2 needed)
	Ryan:	$50?
	Radio Shack!	..

Temp Gauge
	Ryan:	$60

Electric Heat
	??
	Plantdrive:	$220	Vegtherm Mega (32A)
	Enviofuel:	$215	Vegtherm Mega (32A - with wire/switches)
	Enviofuel:	$180	Vegtherm Mega (32A - no wirekit)

COLLECTION
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Pump
	Ryan:	$350	(18gpm? reversible!)
	Ryan uses GPI pump, says Tuthill pumps burn out.  (M-180S??)
		GPI has a 115V pump that does 30GPM! <- but it's a vane pump
	NorthernTool:	$255	(15gpm Tuthill Fill-Rite)
	NorthernTool:	$309	(20gpm Tuthill Fill-Rite - not for oil??)
	NorthernTool:	$240	(18gpm Northern Tools brand)
	Greasel:	$245+23	(13gpm)
	Enviofuel:	$395	(12gpm reversible)
	Enviofuel:	$660	(FULL refuel kit)
WHAT ABOUT AN AIR-OPERATED DIAPHRAGM OIL PUMP?  (northerntool has them)

Strainer:
	Enviofuel:	$44	(250micron, 1.25")
	Enviofuel:	$35? (600micron, 1.25"??, 25-30gpm?)
	VeggieFuelSystems:	$20!
		also: filter screens for suction pipes up to 1"NPT, $8
	I'm not a fan of the big strainers, they're useless unless you can
	hold them sideways and are dropping into a large vat of oil.
	You could put them in a pipe, but then your pickup is even longer
	and it's hard to clean unless your pump is reversible.
	Manufacturer seems to be:  http://www.zinga.com/index.aspx?page=series&categoryid=1

Hose?

Sight Glass?  (does this matter if I have the Racor 1000?)
	Enviofuel:	$17

biobusgroup.com
suggests:	$35 used pool pump 1.5hp?? for collecting oil
-> plant ph tester, mix 50/50 oil + water & check ph (look for neutral)
-> use jar pushed into oil to look at oil
-> webasto pump as aux pump for coolant
-> or 24V coolant circulator pump from RTS, or grundfos 110V pump (HVAC/hydronic)

DIDN'T USE
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Heated Fuel Pickup
	Enviofuel:	$275 (handle high-flow?)
	Plantdrive:	$220&up	(hotstk) (could use shorter and mount from side?)
	vegpower:	$200	(hotstk)
	greaseworks:	$250	(hotstk??)
	fossilfreefuel:	$220	(hotstk aluminum - cheaper than stainless)

Filter H2O Probe	(optional)
	gopower.com:	$120


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